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    The second Republican debate, like the primary, befell in a parallel political universe wherein Donald Trump was an obscure determine of no severe significance.

    The candidates who confirmed up on the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California, engaged in a largely vapid change of canned traces and speaking factors, repeatedly making an attempt to create “moments” that didn’t fairly land.

    Nikki Haley confirmed some spirit in choosing fights together with her rivals, I assume. Ron DeSantis tried to appear above all of it. Doug Burgum tried to get somebody to note him, the “governor of an energy state.” No one had all that a lot to say about Trump.

    It is troublesome for me to think about how this debate will make any affect on the race. The central attribute of the competition continues to be that Trump has an enormous lead. A debate with extraordinarily restricted dialogue of Trump was a ineffective waste of time.

    In a manner, everybody onstage was a loser for failing to shake up that underlying dynamic. In a manner, everybody watching was a loser for having spent these two hours and gotten so little out of it. But some significantly earned that loser standing.

    Loser: Vivek Ramaswamy

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    Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy delivers remarks in the course of the Fox Business Republican Primary Debate on the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library on September 27, 2023, in Simi Valley, California.
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    Love him or hate him, Vivek Ramaswamy was the focus of the primary GOP debate. He was a brand new face whose rhetoric model contrasted with the profession politicians onstage — and he typically clearly drew their ire and contempt. Ramaswamy was the topic of a lot pundit dialog afterward.

    But regardless of some predictions, the thrill did not translate right into a bounce within the polls. And at tonight’s debate, Ramaswamy’s schtick sounded stale.

    When his rivals made him a punching bag once more — Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, and Mike Pence all took their photographs at him, saying he did enterprise in China and that his Ukraine coverage would assist Russia — he failed to reply memorably.

    Most importantly, he didn’t actually have an efficient option to advance his argument about why he needs to be president. At one level, he acknowledged that some would possibly view him as a “know-it-all;” he admitted he didn’t know every little thing and must search recommendation from others.

    The affected humility wasn’t convincing given his common habits all through the race, however it additionally wasn’t a case for why he deserves to be within the Oval Office. If Ramaswamy desires to get out of the mid-single digits in polls, he’ll need to strive one thing totally different.

    Loser: The moderators

    Debate moderators Fox News host Dana Perino and Fox Business Network host Stuart Varney.
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    Moderating a debate with seven candidates onstage in order that it may be attention-grabbing, revealing, and coherent is not any simple feat. Having stated that, Dana Perino, Stuart Varney, and Ilia Calderón appeared puzzlingly reluctant to have the candidates really, effectively, debate one another.

    In an try to retain tight management of the proceedings, the moderators frequently lower off exchanges between the candidates, speeding onward to get to the subsequent query of their preset listing. At one level, Perino even chided the candidates for mentioning one another an excessive amount of, saying that may imply they’d get fewer questions.

    Those questions have been additionally typically hyper-specific to every candidate. It was as if the moderators have been attempting to conduct “gotcha” interviews with seven folks concurrently. Do we actually care whether or not Chris Christie flip-flopped on his immigration place of 13 years in the past?

    A superb debate attracts out how the candidates differ from one another to tell voters about their selection, and for probably the most half, the moderators failed to try this. They additionally nearly fully averted posing questions concerning the overwhelming ballot chief: Trump. Seven candidates trailing badly within the polls have been as an alternative scrutinized by the moderators, whereas the ballot chief acquired off scot-free.

    Loser: Fox News

    Earlier Wednesday, Semafor’s Max Tani reported that Fox needed to scale back its advert time slot costs by a whole lot of 1000’s of {dollars} for this debate, in comparison with the primary one, as a result of curiosity was anticipated to be low. That’s a really tangible demonstration of Fox’s failure to make these debates matter — a failure that primarily stems from Trump making clear, but once more, that Fox wants him greater than he wants them.

    Back on January 8, 2021, Fox chairman Rupert Murdoch wrote in an e-mail that Fox News was “pivoting” as a result of he needed to “make Trump a non person.” And all through 2021 and 2022, the community’s enthusiasm towards Trump appeared to have cooled, and its protection did a lot to construct up Ron DeSantis as a reputable nationwide rival to him.

    But these plans fell aside this yr as Trump’s candidacy and indictments made him inconceivable to disregard. As has been demonstrated at any time when Fox tries to hurt Trump, the community’s leaders and stars really feel they’re hemmed in by their viewers who love him. Trump has paid no worth for skipping these two Fox debates — however Fox has.

    Winner: You know who

    Donald Trump seen through a teleprompter screen.

    Former President and 2024 presidential hopeful Donald Trump speaks at Drake Enterprises, an automotive components producer and provider, in Clinton, Michigan, on September 27, 2023, as an alternative of attending the talk.
    Matthew Hatcher/AFP by way of Getty Images

    This was one other debate the place the man main by 40 factors was not onstage and took solely the slightest of blows from those that have been onstage. (Sorry, Chris Christie, calling him “Donald Duck” is tacky and ineffective.) It was additionally one other debate the place there was no clear winner — no breakout star that could possibly be elevated to Trump’s major challenger.

    There was a time, earlier this yr, when the polling between Trump and DeSantis wasn’t completely lopsided, and it appeared no less than doable that Trump’s lead could possibly be dislodged. That time has lengthy handed. And any marketing campaign occasion that fails to shake up that established order is successfully one which aids Trump’s path to the nomination.

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